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Re: Apple Too Stupid to Understand Utility of Outside-The-Box Apps

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Re: Apple Too Stupid to Understand Utility of Outside-The-Box Apps

High heels for women — Thu, 07 Oct 2010 08:24:50 -0000

Apple is not evil nor too Stupid to allow this application in. It is just not ready. The developer can educate

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Club Penguin Cheats — Thu, 29 Apr 2010 22:35:29 -0000

Well, over time Apple will be more open to niche apps in the future.

Re: Apple Too Stupid to Understand Utility of Outside-The-Box Apps

Payday Loans — Wed, 21 Apr 2010 13:05:02 -0000

The iPad only runs apps from the App Store. The same App Store that is notorious for banning apps for no real reason, such as Google Voice. Sure, netbooks might not have touchscreens, but you can install whatever software you’d like on them. Want to run a different browser on your iPad? Too bad!

Re: Apple Too Stupid to Understand Utility of Outside-The-Box Apps

Luxury Car Seat — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 12:07:43 -0000

Apple is not evil nor too Stupid to allow this application in. It is just not ready. The developer can educate Apple on the product and it may well make it back into the store some time in the future.

Re: Apple Too Stupid to Understand Utility of Outside-The-Box Apps

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Apple just likes to do things their way.

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Re: Apple Too Stupid to Understand Utility of Outside-The-Box Apps

Al Brown — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 23:00:56 -0000

Apple is going to act in its own interests. And yes, that's just as evil as you acting in yours. Its a total outrage.

Re: Apple Too Stupid to Understand Utility of Outside-The-Box Apps

gishdog — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:26:03 -0000

I'm sorry but the "Apple's just not ready for them" argument doesn't float with me.

Apple is approaching iPhone development very dogmatically; from the NDA that a developer has to agree to when they download the SDK to the generic form emails they send out when they reject an app - it all stinks of premeditation on the part of Apple.

Apple is deciding which apps get into the store and which apps don't, without shedding any light onto why they make that decision. If they wanted to encourage someone to resubmit an app at a later date when that person has followed all of the rules laid out, put quite a bit of time and effort into developing an app on their platform and been rejected with nothing to show for it then they should explain why an app has been rejected. The mere existence of the generic rejection emails suggests that tons of apps are being rejected.

Re: Apple Too Stupid to Understand Utility of Outside-The-Box Apps

Doug Petrosky — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:47:04 -0000

The web has absolutely no patience what so ever! When the iPhone 1.0 came out Apple had plans for the iPhone SDK but there was no way to release a stable product and a wide open platform in their time frame. Now, 2 months after the AppStore opens it doors people are giving Apple a hard time about denying a very small number of applications. Apple is not evil nor too Stupid to allow this application in. It is just not ready. The developer can educate Apple on the product and it may well make it back into the store some time in the future.

Give them some time to take a breath! They are still trying to stabilize the phone and SDK when it's developers are calling into them. Opening these to web designers takes additional consideration.

Re: Apple Too Stupid to Understand Utility of Outside-The-Box Apps

rand — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 11:04:20 -0000

The difference is that Microsoft and Internet Explorer have 90%+ of the market, at the time they were doing it, more. That was the reason they got into trouble.

Apple has what, world wide, a few percentage of the smart phone market? Lots of competition there.

Thanks for the polite reply :)

Re: Apple Too Stupid to Understand Utility of Outside-The-Box Apps

britg — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 10:42:31 -0000

Thanks Dirk for shedding some light.

Re: Apple Too Stupid to Understand Utility of Outside-The-Box Apps

Dirk — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 10:13:07 -0000

Hi, I'm the author of Big5. I think I have to clarify some technical misunderstandings.

1 Big5 was developed on the basis of the current iPhone 3G SDK, no jailbreaking or other things at all;
2 as a browser it uses the SDK's UIWebKit component and just public methods and delegates of it;
3 The big5: schema startup shown in the screencast is an additional feature to bring Big5 apps to the home screen (that's the only way apart of submitting apps to the AppStore); the way this is implemented is a SDK compatible way (see SDK demo app "LaunchMe" for details)
4 In the preferences of Big5 you can explicitly switch off functionalities to gain security and privacy
5 Apple just doesn't allow software that does not use "interpreters that are not yet on the iphone" that means Big5 doesn't hurt the SDK agreement, because it uses the unmodified Javascript interpreter of UIWebKit

Hope I got all the points. Thanks for your interest.
Dirk

Re: Apple Too Stupid to Understand Utility of Outside-The-Box Apps

britg — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 18:12:40 -0000

Yeah, good points about the impact of 'limited utility'. Your last question
has scary implications, and if the answer is 'yes' I see the application
pool stagnating after a certain number of iPint's and 'Pull my thumb' apps
being released.

Re: Apple Too Stupid to Understand Utility of Outside-The-Box Apps

Peter — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 18:05:12 -0000

As has been pointed out, this is rejected because it allows an external application to access information about the iPhone. That said, he's right that someone at Apple should have explained that rather than using the "limited utility" explanation.

To wander a little bit afield, though, I worry about this "limited utility to the broad iPhone/iPod touch user community" sentence.

One of the reasons for third-party developers is to address these areas that are of limited utility to some but valuable to others. For example, medical dictionaries are not of interest to "the broad iPhone/iPod touch community", though there are some who will find these invaluable. So is Apple now going to try to determine whether there really is a market for your application and decide whether or not enough people would be interested in it?

Re: Apple Too Stupid to Understand Utility of Outside-The-Box Apps

britg — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 15:56:43 -0000

If that is the case, Apple owes it to their developers to give us that type of explanation. I think there is a chance here the reviewer or team of reviewers just didn't think outside of the box, and decided that we don't need another web browser app.

If they really did understand the full implications of the app and denied it with a boilerplate response then it's not worth the time and effort to make a remotely innovative iphone application in my opinion.

Re: Apple Too Stupid to Understand Utility of Outside-The-Box Apps

bud — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 15:38:26 -0000

I'm sure apples boilerplate rejection has nothing to do with the apps rejection.

It is pretty obvious why they would reject it; to prevent hooks from websites into the iphone; potentially malicious hooks.

Isn't this obvious? If it is not obvious, you are disingenuous.

Re: Apple Too Stupid to Understand Utility of Outside-The-Box Apps

britg — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:15:59 -0000

Saying Big5 is useless is similar to saying Firefox was stupid when it came out. Or, that any browser but Internet Explorer and Safari are stupid.

Here's the big secret - Big5 uses the exact same SDK as every other app. The SDK provides a component to access websites, called WebView, that lots of apps use, including Big5. The security risk in Big5 is the same security risk that any application that accesses a web site has!

Re: Apple Too Stupid to Understand Utility of Outside-The-Box Apps

Nat X — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 13:47:12 -0000

Based on your description of the product, I'd reject it for security reasons alone. Having watched the screencast I'd go so far as to say that anyone who expected this convoluted nightmare of uselessness to sell is either too stupid to understand the meaning of terms such as "utility" and "outside-the-box" or is suffering from pathological delusions of adequacy.

Those "Pull My Finger" guys I can sympathize with, but really, you're throwing a very sad little rage against the machine temper tantrum over something any rational person should have not only anticipated but expected. The icon alone screams "amateur."

Re: Apple Too Stupid to Understand Utility of Outside-The-Box Apps

britg — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 11:24:22 -0000

Wrong on every level - big5 uses exactly the same tools that every
other app uses!